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Post  SpikeyUK on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:07 am

Hi all,

I am looking at getting into development on the iPhone (I am an experienced PC developer) using the Sio2 engine. I am looking at buying a Mac for development as I assume I cannot develop on the PC and port it at a later date?!? (correct me if i'm wrong...)

As I already have a desktop PC and a PC laptop, I was looking at a Mac Mini so I can tuck it away and use it purely for development purposes....would this be up to the job? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated; obviously I would love to buy a MacBookPro or the latest iMac but budget is a factor.

Thanks for your time,

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Post  oioioi on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:12 am

If your pc isn't form the stone age there is a big chance you can install osx on it. Just google osx86, also you may want to know it's illegal, but what isn't...

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Re: New Development Hardware

Post  afastrunner on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:55 am

With a little work you can have hackintosh osx duel booting on ether of those machines i'm sure. check out http://forum.insanelymac.com/ for all the info you need. though basicly you just need to torrent the install DVD for one of the distributions boot to that and go. (easyer on an intel cpu than an AMD but will work on AMD too)

edit: link removed. not looking to get anyone upset or introuble. personaly though I think having to buy specific overpriced hardware to run an OS that's required (mostly) to be able to do iphone development BS. I'd happly pay for a license for OSX to run it on one of the SEVERAL laptops and computers I have laying around at home that are all still better than a MAC MINI.

when I have money rolling in from iphone apps THEN maybe i'll think about buying a apple hardware. If your an established company and not just a hobbiest then you damn sure better have everything legit.


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Re: New Development Hardware

Post  meteors on Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:06 pm

I would strongly advise against using a hackintosh as a development machine.

The mac mini will work very well.



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Post  meteors on Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:07 pm

By the way, if you buy a used mac, you must make sure it's an Intel machine, and not an older PowerPC.


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Post  oioioi on Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:14 pm

meteors wrote:I would strongly advise against using a hackintosh as a development machine.

The mac mini will work very well.



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Why? Is there any thing wrong whit it? I use a hackintosh

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Post  meteors on Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:19 pm

You obviously know what you're doing, but I would never think of using anything but a standard development environment.

There's always a chance of some bug or something.


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Re: New Development Hardware

Post  sio2interactive on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:23 pm

Can you please guy stop talking about illegal stuff on this thread... This is not the forum nor the place... I personally encourage EVERY developers to be legit at 100%, the Mac & iPhone is one of the best development platform that I come across in my career and Im only encouraging people to use it the way it should be use in order to don't have any disappointments when you are going to want to put your app on the app store...

Tks in advance,

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Re: New Development Hardware

Post  SpikeyUK on Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:11 am

Thanks everyone, really appreciate it. I did look at the Hackintosh route but figure a) would rather do it all legit, and b) just can't afford the time and effort to *try* and get my PC up and running with it.

I think I will go for the Mac Mini, probably going to buy a new one as secondhand the Intel boxes go for pretty much the same price as new (crazy!). I did hear rumour of new Mac Minis being released soon with a replacement graphics chipset so may hold out for them... on that note does the existing chipset cause any issues with this engine? for instance I know it can't do full occulsion as seen on the Unity forums.

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Post  oioioi on Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:16 am

I can agree that the piratebay like was a bit to far to go, but info about how you install it isn't illegal only links to installation dvds. Maybe you should remove it afastrunner? My opinion is that apple is greedy and don't deserve my money, 30% of every sale is a LOT.

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Post  sio2interactive on Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:10 pm

oioioi: You obviously have no experience in the game industry... Independent game developers have no choice to pass by publishers an distributors or game portals in order to have their title sell, after all the cost the developer get around 15% of the final price that the customer is going to buy...

>> My opinion is that apple is greedy and don't deserve my money, 30% of every sale is a LOT.

Would you prefer then +/- 15% of the total sale then?

So I do believe that apple is doing you a GREAT favor, cuz they are literally acting like the distributor and you can now self-publish your game without having to pass to a third party since apple expose your game to all its consumers.
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Post  afastrunner on Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:40 pm

sio2interactive wrote:oioioi: You obviously have no experience in the game industry... Independent game developers have no choice to pass by publishers an distributors or game portals in order to have their title sell, after all the cost the developer get around 15% of the final price that the customer is going to buy...

>> My opinion is that apple is greedy and don't deserve my money, 30% of every sale is a LOT.

Would you prefer then +/- 15% of the total sale then?

So I do believe that apple is doing you a GREAT favor, cuz they are literally acting like the distributor and you can now self-publish your game without having to pass to a third party since apple expose your game to all its consumers.

Indeed! Try getting a windows application published and see how much time and money it takes to even reach a small audience. Apple is truely giving us a wonderful oppurtunity to reach a wide market quickly and easyly. The could take more than 30% and small developers would still flock to it.

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